问一手牌，monster draw。

blugger

问题是我是否应该在flop上reraise all in。call 和all in的ev有区别有多大？PokerStars Game #52421493632: Tournament #339010262, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2010/11/09 23:10:52 CCT [2010/11/09 10:10:52 ET]Table '339010262 56' 9-max Seat #5 is the buttonSeat 1: bachelor_80 (15169 in chips)Seat 2: blugger (14792 in chips)Seat 3: Alfar8713 (16780 in chips)Seat 4: charnock2010 (9633 in chips)Seat 5: amy3501 (12924 in chips)Seat 6: Antoniioo (11277 in chips) is sitting outSeat 7: ouchagainAA (10880 in chips)Seat 8: sotiris113 (20230 in chips)Seat 9: da Ape (4470 in chips)bachelor_80: posts the ante 25blugger: posts the ante 25Alfar8713: posts the ante 25charnock2010: posts the ante 25amy3501: posts the ante 25Antoniioo: posts the ante 25ouchagainAA: posts the ante 25sotiris113: posts the ante 25da Ape: posts the ante 25Antoniioo: posts small blind 150ouchagainAA: posts big blind 300*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to blugger [Kc Jc]sotiris113: foldsda Ape: raises 600 to 900bachelor_80: foldsblugger: calls 900Alfar8713: foldscharnock2010: calls 900amy3501: foldsAntoniioo: foldsouchagainAA: folds*** FLOP *** [Qc 8d Tc]da Ape: bets 3545 and is all-inblugger: calls 3545charnock2010: raises 5163 to 8708 and is all-inblugger: calls 5163*** TURN *** [Qc 8d Tc] [Td]*** RIVER *** [Qc 8d Tc Td] [3d]*** SHOW DOWN ***blugger: shows [Kc Jc] (a pair of Tens)charnock2010: shows [Kh Qh] (two pair, Queens and Tens)charnock2010 collected 10326 from side potda Ape: shows [Js Ah] (a pair of Tens)charnock2010 collected 14010 from main potda Ape finished the tournament in 452nd place*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 24336 Main pot 14010. Side pot 10326. | Rake 0Board [Qc 8d Tc Td 3d]Seat 1: bachelor_80 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: blugger showed [Kc Jc] and lost with a pair of TensSeat 3: Alfar8713 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: charnock2010 showed [Kh Qh] and won (24336) with two pair, Queens and TensSeat 5: amy3501 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: Antoniioo (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 7: ouchagainAA (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 8: sotiris113 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: da Ape showed [Js Ah] and lost with a pair of Tens

hahuhu

个人觉得你flop，call和reraise allin都是对的。唯一不同的就是出顺出花你基本上稳赢，没听上牌肯定是个输。你在flop怎么打都是有正EV的。估计区别不大。如果2010这个对手击中了好的牌面，估计你怎么raise他也不会走。如果2010没击中牌面，你再怎么call他也不会跟注。所以，个人认为，打的没错，就是听牌失败了。

giggsye

call没错啊，你后面的人有牌他总会和你allin，没牌的话也不可能跟入他的一半筹码，这牌关键决策不在你，而在你后面的一位