Which is better, Shove or flat

youngtercel

1/2 liveHero 300$with AsKs, LAG (500$) raise to 20$, only HERO call.FLOP9sTs2dLAG lead for 50$, most likely indicating a pair, if we assume this is about correct, which is better: SHOVE, or flat?

leisong

Min raisemaybe is an option too. How about 120?

sama

PREFLOP為什麼不3BET?對LAG 3BET比較好吧?你平均實力一定比對手強這個牌面不可能扔吧..兩OVER CARD+NUT FLUSH DRAW我認為RAISE到150比CALL和ALL IN好,ALL IN很像FLUSH DRAW,你RAISE到150則更像有成牌在吸對手進去

youngtercel

sama 发表于 2012-7-17 04:59PREFLOP為什麼不3BET?對LAG 3BET比較好吧?你平衡實力一定比對手強這個牌面不可能扔吧..兩OVER CARD+NUT FL ...if i have AsKs, i aim to play big.so first i don't want to just scared him away with any Ax Kx, second if he re-pop then i would not to willing to gamble 150BB pre.

sama

youngtercel 发表于 2012-7-17 05:35if i have AsKs, i aim to play big.so first i don't want to just scared him away with any Ax Kx ...對普通的對手,我AKs就不想打走對手,對LAG的..我本身3BET他的範圍就廣了很多..OOP的話所有JJ-AA/AK一定3BET,視乎情況再加Ax和KQ-KT/78等小連張.有位置所有對子必CALL/3bet,AA/KK/AK必3BET/4bet到尾,78s/89s等連張視乎情況3bet/4bet等等

shisfc0603

就正正常常raise到150最好

atubo_beep

到180，turn看情况allin或者看river。

monox0

shove 100%....

hutgies

我应该直接推了，不管那么多。这牌shove应该吃亏不到哪去吧。

andyliu7

瞎说一下：shove后鱼靠上来的几率比raise完flop鱼靠上来的几率大些！若是我打，flop raise后看turn，若在后卫turn不来帮助就CHECK看river，river没用就不再下注。若在前卫，flop raise完他靠后，不管turn是什么都推，不过赢的几率比较小了我认为。