leisong 發表於 2022-5-28 09:17

将错就错,还是一错到底?

今天打了一手非常纠结的牌,希望大家批评我的时候顺便给些意见.1/2,NL,HOME GAME当时我在BB,筹码900左右,中位RAISE到12,筹码150,BTN CALL,筹码220,SB CALL,筹码1000+.SB是个中国人,打的比较紧,知道筹码深浅的知识,这是我第二次和他玩。我是55,CALL。Flop:Ah 5h 8c,SB CHECK,我打25,中位CALL,BTN RAISE TO 75,SB CALL。我当时就想,SB应该是DRAW 牌,否则在这个牌面,慢打一定是找死,所以排除了88的可能,于是我RAISE TO 275,只有SB CALL。应该说,这个RAISE有点小,至少应该到350,这样,我的筹码就剩下500左右,这个数字很重要,因为对TURN的决策影响很大。TURN Kh对方直接ALL IN。我。。。。。。很纠结呀,POT 里大约有1300左右,我还剩580,CALL,显然是碰运气,我对他没有什么太多的解读,毕竟玩的时间很短,只知道他应该是个好手,扑克一般的知识都知道,是不是鲨鱼,我一时还无从判断。我知道我在FLOP上RAISE的有点少,但,事已至此,该如何应对呢?CALL OR FLOD?

notch 發表於 2022-5-28 09:37

感觉是该跑了,sb可能拿着67s的双听在你raise 25,接下来button reraise到75,池底173sb需要投入75,1:3都不到了,而且后面还有你的re-raise的可能这个时候还能去听牌的话,也就只有双听了如果是鲨鱼,还可能是咋呼你一般好手,这个样子肯定是花了

pokerbean 發表於 2022-5-28 09:57

第一眼感觉是跟,后来看来看去觉得SB最合理的牌就是7h6h or 4h3h,但还是忍不住想跟……我很有傻驴的素质啊。static/image/smiley/default/sweat.gif
另外请教: Flop上你有必要主动Bet么?虽然这可能对结果影响不大

leisong 發表於 2022-5-28 10:12

感觉是该跑了,sb可能拿着67s的双听在你raise 25,接下来button reraise到75,池底173sb需要投入75,1:3都 ...notch 发表于 011-4-27 17:13我就在想,如果他是BLUFFING,我也认了,在这个牌面能BLUFFING,一定是在FLOP上就设计好了,那也说明他的确是鲨鱼,比我高很多,以后要多加注意。

leisong 發表於 2022-5-28 10:27

第一眼感觉是跟,后来看来看去觉得SB最合理的牌就是7h6h or 4h3h,但还是忍不住想跟……我很有傻驴的素质啊 ...pokerbean 发表于 2011-4-27 20:52现在也有点想CALL,呵呵我当时BET FLOP,就是想把POT做起来,我对于他又位置,下面有海DRAW,我还希望PREFLOP RAISER RAISE ME。RE- RAISE 的还是有点少,要是再多点,TURN 秒CALL呀。

youngtercel 發表於 2022-5-28 10:41

you should have a plan ahead at flop when make the raise, am i going to lay down if turns make the flush? or i am calling whatever?"RE- RAISE 的还是有点少,要是再多点,TURN 秒CALL呀。" if so, just raise all at flop?i feel this 275raise is too large, if you are charging the draw, then don't commit yourself (or your opponent) first. you should be ready to let it go if the draw cards come.so i fee raise 200 make more sense. (since your hand is re-draw to full house as well)Generally, fight with drawing hand, don't punch at flop, punch at turn( if draw is not made)

leisong 發表於 2022-5-28 11:07

you should have a plan ahead at flop when make the raise, am i going to lay down if turns make the f ...youngtercel 发表于 2011-4-28 00:34你让我看到了扑克更深的一层。学习了。

notch 發表於 2022-5-28 11:28

i feel this 275raise is too large, if you are charging the draw, then don't commit yourself (or your opponent) first. you should be ready to let it go if the draw cards come这里我不是完全赞成这个观点如果我只是tptk,也许我不会commit自己,但不会因为对方抽花这里是set了,即使对方是抽花顺,胜率也有6成为什么不去commit对方,你是+ev的。在对方不弃牌的前提下,加注越大,+ev越大

乌白丸 發表於 2022-5-28 11:37

回复 8#notch这里我是这样理解的:set要么在flop raise一个合理的比较小的注,turn完成了某种draw,我们也有足够的隐藏赔率来redraw boat。要么raise一个比较大的注,即使turn完成了某种draw,我们有足够大的锅底和足够小的剩余筹码来redraw boat。size如果倒大不小,那是最尴尬的。

youngtercel 發表於 2022-5-28 11:59

i feel this 275raise is too large, if you are charging the draw, then don't commit yourself (or yo ...notch 发表于 2011-4-28 03:53That is EV-MAXplay. it is mathematically optimized play.But often players (Includes most of us) don't play that way due to multiple reasons.Either we don't play so many hands or enough bankroll, or try to avoid big swings.For example, At flop,if we have a mad hand vs a drawing hand(Flush .e.g.), Certainly,we are in 60-40 favor, mathematically we should get as much as money inright now, but often we don't play that way, especiallyin deep stack.that is similar reason why we should re-raise AK preflop then just call.
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